Why I Don’t Work For A Nonprofit

by Nate St. Pierre on March 18, 2013

Over the past four years, I’ve had a lot of success in building global movements, which is a fancy way of saying that I’m good at getting people to believe in an idea that’s important enough to get them up off their couches to go do something to help.

I have a skill set that people in the nonprofit world desperately need, but no matter how many times they’ve asked me to come work for them, I’ve turned them down. Here’s why:

“I want to talk about how the things we’ve been taught to think about giving and about charity and about the nonprofit sector are actually undermining the causes we love and our profound yearning to change the world.”

Dan Pallotta
TED Talk, “The Way We Think About Charity Is Dead Wrong

^What he said. Seriously. His entire video is great, but if you’re crunched for time, watch from 1:00 – 5:00, and 17:00 on. You’ll also find some more quotes sprinkled into this article.

Whenever I entertain the thought of joining up with a nonprofit, it takes about three seconds for my mind to come back with the biggest reason it’s never going to work (all my friends in the sector may want to cover their eyes for this part): most nonprofits are risk-averse, small-minded organizations, and always will be. I see this problem as being equal parts the organization itself and equal parts society’s view of what a nonprofit should be.

“The third area of discrimination is the taking of risk in pursuit of new ideas for generating revenue. So Disney can make a new $200 million movie that flops, and nobody calls the attorney general. But you do a little $1 million community fundraiser for the poor, and it doesn’t produce a 75 percent profit to the cause in the first 12 months, and your character is called into question. So nonprofits are really reluctant to attempt any brave, daring, giant-scale new fundraising endeavors for fear that if the thing fails, their reputations will be dragged through the mud. Well, you and I know when you prohibit failure, you kill innovation. If you kill innovation in fundraising, you can’t raise more revenue. If you can’t raise more revenue, you can’t grow. And if you can’t grow, you can’t possibly solve large social problems.”

I literally cannot work in an environment that stays conservative and fears failure. My nature is to do creative, original things that have never been done before, and this naturally carries with it a high potential for failure. I’m not gonna lie, I fail a lot. I just do. But it’s all part of the game, and every time I fail, I learn something valuable from it and come back bigger, better and stronger. I also hit some home runs along the way, and over time I end up raising the bar for just about everyone. That’s how my skill set works.

If I were to bring this mentality and work style to a nonprofit, odds are I would quit or be fired within six months. Probably both. If you’re worried about creating goals that are easily identifiable and easily accomplished within a set of parameters, or worse, if you’re concerned with looking bad to the general public if you don’t do these things in a certain way, then I can’t work for you. Because I can’t tell you exactly what’s going to happen when I come up with something completely unorthodox and release it out into the wild. And what’s more, I don’t want to know what will happen. I want to see some beautiful chaos at first, and then out of that we can pull whatever gem might emerge. These two approaches don’t play nicely together, and it quickly becomes a bad fit for both sides.

I’m not going to worry about the fact that our target demographic mainly cares about this certain thing, and only tends to donate in this certain type of situation, blah blah blah. I’m going to think about what’s going to happen when the entire world knows about and cares about the problem we’re solving. That’s when things start to get interesting, and that’s when you can start to effect major change.

“So we’ve all been taught that charities should spend as little as possible on overhead things like fundraising under the theory that, well, the less money you spend on fundraising, the more money there is available for the cause. Well, that’s true if it’s a depressing world in which this pie cannot be made any bigger. But if it’s a logical world in which investment in fundraising actually raises more funds and makes the pie bigger, then we have it precisely backwards, and we should be investing more money, not less, in fundraising, because fundraising is the one thing that has the potential to multiply the amount of money available for the cause that we care about so deeply.”

It’s really that simple in my mind – it’s a big world, with limitless possibilities. Let’s make the pie bigger, any way we can (within ethical limits, of course). We should not be afraid to do things that matter, things that force people to acknowledge our existence in one way or another, and most importantly, force them to think about the things we are saying, and come to their own conclusions. The last thing we should be is ignored, which unfortunately is where most risk-averse nonprofits live. But when you get to the stage where you can’t be ignored, you can start working on scalable solutions to world-sized problems, instead of just talking about them.

“This is what happens when we confuse morality with frugality. We’ve all been taught that the bake sale with five percent overhead is morally superior to the professional fundraising enterprise with 40 percent overhead, but we’re missing the most important piece of information, which is, what is the actual size of these pies? Who cares if the bake sale only has five percent overhead if it’s tiny? What if the bake sale only netted 71 dollars for charity because it made no investment in its scale and the professional fundraising enterprise netted 71 million dollars because it did? Now which pie would we prefer, and which pie do we think people who are hungry would prefer?”

It’s no secret that I don’t have a lot of love for nonprofits, and that’s really too bad, because people like me would be great additions to their teams. But people like me aren’t going to join their teams until we start seeing more boldness, creativity, and even a touch of fearlessness out of them.

I never thought twice about the clean water problem in Africa until I started seeing the incredible creative marketing of charity: water. I never thought about aligning myself with a team helping people raise money for medical need until I saw the personal stories and life-changing results generated by the GiveForward team (disclosure: GiveForward is a for-profit social enterprise, and my new employer, but that’s a story for another article).

People like me don’t always do what we do for the money or the title or the recognition. We often do it because creation is how we express ourselves, and we capture our joy from those moments where we get to break people out of their traditional ways of thinking and doing things, and pave the way for countless new stories to be told.

In short, we strive to change the world.

“Now we’re talking the potential for real change. But it’s never going to happen by forcing these organizations to lower their horizons to the demoralizing objective of keeping their overhead low.

Our generation does not want its epitaph to read, “We kept charity overhead low.” We want it to read that we changed the world, and that part of the way we did that was by changing the way we think about these things. So the next time you’re looking at a charity, don’t ask about the rate of their overhead. Ask about the scale of their dreams, their Apple-, Google-, Amazon-scale dreams, how they measure their progress toward those dreams, and what resources they need to make them come true regardless of what the overhead is. Who cares what the overhead is if these problems are actually getting solved?”

Amen, brother.

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  • Marie Sabelko

    I saw this TED talk last week and totally agree… and I work for a non-profit. Things need to change.

  • http://twitter.com/LoveWokeMeUp Emmy

    Ditto Marie.

    As someone who does technically work for a non-profit… yes.

    I feel like that’s a problem.

  • Kerry Goodrich

    Well Said.

  • Mel Majoros

    GiveForward rocks!!!

  • http://twitter.com/TomTuohy Tom Tuohy

    Spot on Nate. If necessity is indeed the mother of invention, we should be hearing mom’s voice loud and clear.

  • JM

    I work for a nonprofit and I see both sides of this. One huge issue is that funders (and donors to a large extent) do not want to fund operating expense, infrasturcture, and fundraising… yet all of these are critical to the functioning of a nonprofit. People want to see their money going to help the ___ (fill in the target population of the charity) and don’t understand that staff need computers and management and a building to make these things happen. I think you are preaching to the choir; we know these things. I think the education needs to be directed at donors, foundations and other funders.

  • http://twitter.com/stephaniewernet S_Piccirilli Wernet

    Nate – this is indeed a great TED talk and the message is very on point. I agree. And, I sincerely appreciate your honest thoughts. However, I think you may have fallen victim to your own perspective. To do creative, original things, you can’t dump a whole sector into one bucket – don’t you think that’s a bit limiting? Yes, there are many non-profits that are risk-averse, and having worked on both sides of the profit world I get it, but for many reasons that are not always easy to understand from the outside. So, after reading what you had to say, I’m left wondering – Wouldn’t leaping into the non-profit world that needs creative, risk-taking talent, with the possibility of creating GREAT change, be one of the greatest risks of all?

    • http://twitter.com/NateStPierre Nate St. Pierre

      I was wondering who would be the first person to bring up this point. :)

      Leaping into the nonprofit world and becoming a shining example of what one of those organizations COULD be (both from the inside and influencing outside perspectives), working to totally change the game, would indeed be a noble undertaking. But that’s not what I want to spend my life doing.

      I want to touch individual lives and tell amazing stories, and I’ve found roles that enable me to do that in ways that are meaningful to me. So I’m not the nonprofit champion. I do, however, have a voice in the space, and I’m using it (as in this article) to get people to think about the big picture a little more, and maybe THEY will want to be the ones to jump in and effect change.

      • Susan

        Your post makes me excited and mad. I am a writer who freelances for many, many nonprofits (through a marketing agency that hires them.) I recently created a video that speaks directly to the funding issue in this TED talk. That’s why I’m excited to see the idea gaining traction. But I’m more mad at you. You want to change the world but admit you want to make sure you’re fulfilled first. That’s honest and icky at the same time. If you really want to change the world and you have thrust yourself into the conversation about what’s broken in the system that’s working to change the world (nonprofits) isn’t it incredibly small of you to shine a huge light on a really important problem and then walk away because it doesn’t provide a platform that’s “meaningful” for you? If you are actually the really creative guy you claim to be then it would be more meaningful for you to accept your own challenge and make it meaningful! Just laying it out there and walking away seems kinda gross. Unless it is your plan to create a new system for changing the world that does away with the need for traditional non-profits. That might work. It’s pie in the sky but go for it. Otherwise, there is an incredible amount of truth in the power of working within a system to fix it. Don’t mean to get all bumper-stickery on you but Be the Change You Want to See in the World, dude.

        • http://twitter.com/NateStPierre Nate St. Pierre

          I’m going to assume that you aren’t aware of the “Change the World” projects I’ve spent four years building (and still run) on my own time and my own income, touching millions of lives . . . just like most of the better nonprofits do.

          Once you’ve seen and understand that, and if you still have this same comment and opinion, please let me know, and we can go from there.

  • Lynn

    You really hit the nail on the head. Now I can see why a non-profit I do a lot of work for has a very conservative, take no risks director. We can’t move or do anything for the director is very risk-adverse, comfortable in her job and will continue that way till she retires. It’s too bad non-profits can’t do more or be more creative.

  • http://twitter.com/mickeygomez Mickey Gomez

    Nate, love this! I, too, watched this talk last week. And I watched Amanda Palmer’s TED Talk. And I watched another excellent, short video on the limitations we’ve put upon the nonprofit sector by failing to fund infrastructure or INSISTING that all money go straight to help clients, like you can click a button and food will show up right in their pockets.

    I’m working on a presentation intended to frame this conversation in our local community – there are so many elements to it, ranging from funding infrastructure to new concepts of community engagement to requesting support not based on fear or guilt but rather out of inspiring hope and change. People should WANT to give to support us, right?

    Anyway, I’m hoping you won’t mind if I include a link to your post?

    And it’s great to see you’re still going strong!

    Mickey

    • http://twitter.com/NateStPierre Nate St. Pierre

      Of course, Mickey, link away! Glad you’re framing up a conversation around it – that’s all I’m hoping to do here . . . get more qualified people like you talking about it. I’ll consider that a win any day. :)

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  • Jennifer Ruwart

    Very thought provoking post. My road to nonprofit was a bit curvy-corporate gig, Peace Corps, International MBA, lots of travel… I’ve always said entering the nonprofit sphere was like diving into icy water. It wasn’t until I heard Dan Pallota (cue the choir) speak in 2010 that I understood why.

    I have tried to “leave” nonprofit for years but always get drawn back in. I am coming to accept that I am meant to be one of the ones rattling the cages from within. I don’t think you have to work for a nonprofit though to effect change. You’re doing groovy things. Amen.

    We need more people across society challenging and changing the dysfunctional relationship we have as a whole with so-called “charities”. In my mind, NPO is a tax-status, not a business model.

    Thanks for igniting this conversation.

  • http://www.themomentsofmylife.com/ Shelly Drymon

    Great article! I worked for a non-profit that has been around for 100 years and you can tell! Their aversion to any risk has actually backfired and now they are scrambling to be relevant, the national office making what I saw as poor decisions for the local councils to follow. Total upheaval.

    I will never work for a non-profit again. After 16 years I had enough of being stifled and dealing with antiquated ways of work. I once was “invited” to a meeting on developing procedures for developing procedures. I brought up just how silly that was. I am surprised I was not fired – I was a boat rocker! I think I wasn’t because no one else wanted the job I had.

    Anyway, I now own a business that works with start-up and small non-profits in the areas of grant writing and management and volunteer/staff development and training.

    I hope to affect change that way.

    Keep up the good work!

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